it's interesting you thanked me for that post... I was reviewing some older posts and saw you had started a project, but appeared to have abandoned it because your modeling skills weren't there... I was going to post in that thread, but it was over 30 days so I didn't want to get in trouble for necro posting. Anyway, you were the inspiration for me to make the Orbiter video.... so it was funny to see you were first to thank me for it...lol